Ashley M. Wilcox is a Quaker minister and founder of Church of Mary Magdalene. She is currently writing a handbook for feminist preachers called The Women’s Lectionary, to be published by Westminster John Knox Press in September 2020. Ashley travels around the country to speak, preach, and lead workshops and retreats.

Through her ministry, Ashley brings Friends deeper into their own tradition and helps those in other denominations and faiths experience God through Quaker practices and spirituality.

Ashley is a graduate of Candler School of Theology and Willamette University College of Law. Before going to seminary, Ashley worked for appellate courts in Washington and Oregon. Her writing has been published in Friends Journal, Western Friend, and various Quaker anthologies.  

Ashley was born and raised in Anchorage, Alaska, and now lives in Atlanta, Georgia, with her partner Troy and their two orange cats.

You can follow her on Twitter, Facebook, and make sure to check out her website for more of her writing and preaching. 


Brie Stoner is a musician, writer, student, and 2015 alumna of the Center for Action and Contemplation’s Living School for Action and Contemplation. She co-hosts Another Name For Everything, the popular new podcast featuring Richard Rohr. Her music, which has been featured in national and international television broadcasting, includes the production and composition of the soundtracks for the NOOMA film series with Rob Bell. Brie has published blogs for The Omega Center, The Contemplative Society, and Northeast Wisdom websites, and contributed to an anthology edited by Ilia Delio, OSF: Personal Transformation and a New Creation: The Spiritual Revolution of Beatrice Bruteau. Brie has served as content curator and podcast host for Ilia Delio's online forum, The Omega Center, research assistant to Cynthia Bourgeault, and currently serves on staff with the Center for Action and Contemplation.


Mentioned in our conversation: 

The Universal Christ by Richard Rohr

Everything Belongs by Richard Rohr 

Falling Upward by Richard Rohr 

Another Name for Everything: A Podcast with Richard Rohr, hosted by Brie Stoner and Paul Swanson. 


Rabbi Nahum Ward-Lev founded and leads Beit Midrash of Santa Fe, a multi-faith sacred learning community. He has led workshops at retreat centers, synagogues, churches, and seminaries across the United States, including Union Theological Seminary, Ghost Ranch, Santa Maria de la Vid Abbey, and Stony Point Center. His teaching invites learners into an adventurous exploration that engages the body, heart, and soul as well as the mind. He is an experienced spiritual director, accompanying people of many faiths. Nahum is the Scholar-in-Residence at Temple Beth Shalom in Santa Fe, NM and a Fellow of the Rabbis Without Borders Initiative.

His new book, The Liberating Path of the Hebrew Prophets: Then and Now (Orbis, 2019), Rabbi Nahum mines Biblical wisdom to illumine a way forward. His book explores the rich territory of liberating social change as articulated by the Hebrew prophets and lived by Biblical persons. Ward-Lev examines the development of these Biblical liberation themes in contemporary prophetic writers including Paulo Freire, Abraham Joshua Heschel, Martin Luther King Jr., and bell hooks.

In clarifying practices for the liberation journey, prioritizing reciprocal relationships, engaging in dialogue, exercising social and artistic imagination, and nurturing a love ethic in public life, his book empowers readers of all faiths and backgrounds to see through a prophetic lens and engage in prophetic action.

Please check out if you'd like to get in touch with Rabbi Nahum, invite him to lead a study with your community, and find out more about his work. 

Enjoy the podcast! 

On today's episode, I talked about getting misunderstood - then and moving on. We can't get everybody to see what we are trying to do or understand what we really meant. You can waste a lot of emotional energy trying to answer questions you just can't answer anyway. I told a few stories from John's gospel about how Jesus refused to answer certain questions and just moved on. You can, too. Enjoy. 

I got to know Katey Zeh when our mutual friend Erin Lane introduced us, and I’m so glad she did. Katey has experience working as an advocate for women and girls who are being trafficked, which has greatly informed how she reads the bible. The result is her brand new book, Women Rise Up: Sacred Stories for Today’s Revolution. Katey speaks the truth of the abuse, oppression, and erasure women have endured in the stories told in the Scriptures, much of which is still happening in the world today.

Click here to enjoy the episode.

Connect with Katey:

“I don’t know anyone who more seamlessly marries her scriptural imagination with an activist sensibility than Katey Zeh. She is a reliable, skilled, and (thanks to be God) altogether human teacher who is not afraid to trouble the waters of some of our most beloved (and forgotten) readings of biblical women – and their enduring witness in our modern lives. If you are looking for an easy bake women’s book study, you won’t find it here. But if you dare to go where few have willingly gone into this study of what it means to be a female follower of God, you will come out the other side just as Zeh hoped: more resilient, more compassionate, and better able to rise up in the face of injustices near and far. I recommend this book to any girl beginning to wonder what relevancy the biblical stories have in her life – and any pastor, counselor, parent, or mentor who cares enough to walk into the complexity with her.” – Erin S. Lane, Author of Lessons in Belonging.

May 2, 2019

Episode 182 | Mu

This is a rebroadcast of an oldie but a goodie - I think you might agree that it has aged well in the last two years. 

Have you ever experienced that awkward moment when someone asks you a question, and you know they want an either/or response, but you just can't go there? Have you ever wanted to demand a better, more expansive question, one that respects the nature of your answer, and the fact that their small question can't contain the truth of your nuanced answer? Well, well, well. You need to get to know Mu.


Links: Music kindly provided by Sisters of Murphy (songs: 17 and Green Over Red (Radio Edit)Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Robert Pirsig. And - I meant to mention this but forgot: Listen to this fabulous interview with Krista Tippet and Padraig O Tuama to hear more about Mu. 

On this episode, I talked about how to know when to voice that disagreement, and how to know when to keep silent. I posed five questions you can ask yourself to decide whether or not it's worth it to have that disagreement. Enjoy! 

My friend Nate Pyle is a great writer and also a compassionate pastor, who knows about pain and loss firsthand. Professional uncertainty, the intense impact of mental illness, and the struggle to build a family after infertility and a lost pregnancy have left Nate with more questions than answers. One answer he has come to, however, is that God regularly gives people more than they can handle, regardless of the well-known cliche that says otherwise. 

In Nate's book, More Than You Can Handle: When Life's Overwhelming Pain Meets God's Overcoming Grace, he shares his own story, the stories of others, and a fresh look at the life of Jesus, in order to help people deal with life's inevitable pain. 


Music on this episode: Julie's Song by Joel Hanson

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